I've been always thinking that all the web frameworks sucks, and a person should always use vanilla/pure php coding, the reason to say this is that overtime you will have to re-update your framework, watch out for fatal error due to compatibility, issues shows up when a function is deprecated due to the framework forcing you to re-code your stuff, isn't this a waste of time? Isn't this a pain in the ass? Finally isn't a framework a result of a pure coded php?

If I had my way, the only UI is the CLI.

Not familiar with PHP, but in general, frameworks are there so that you don't have to reinvent the wheel every time you do something a bit bigger.

For something small, sure - a framework is probably not warranted. But if you're using a framework and you just blindly update without a test run on local/dev/staging despite expecting incompatibilities, it's your fault too.

my username checks out and the posts also for sure.

The problem?

We got all these "learn coding in 3 months" and college freshmans and most of all these high tech dropouts that believe they're the next IT genius and are able to write a mature framework with the same ease you write a sidekick weekend project.

This led to lot of these idiots to puke out shit on github and generally everywhere advertising it in bold claims as the new panacea for all evil.

Dumb idiots and marketing guys advertise and use it (dumb idiot = the guy who hops on whatever bandwagon is trendy at the moment) and bang you got some new framework that just because some people use it or "that guy worked at google!" then it must be goooood!

Programming today is a hell because of these walking cancers