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I've been always thinking that all the web frameworks sucks, and a person should always use vanilla/pure php coding, the reason to say this is that overtime you will have to re-update your framework, watch out for fatal error due to compatibility, issues shows up when a function is deprecated due to the framework forcing you to re-code your stuff, isn't this a waste of time? Isn't this a pain in the ass? Finally isn't a framework a result of a pure coded php?
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