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"lack of games" problem cannot be solved until Linux desktop users reach close to windows or macos users (which in my opinion will not happen soon).
I personally use Linux as a server only, there is no way I can use it as a pc. -
C0D4681467yLinux as a server - Yes
Linux as a desktop for anything other than programming - Nope
I find the lack of support for virtually everything the pain point to move over like you are finding yourself, granted it’s the little things, but theirs enough of them to drive you mad.
So until the day comes that a Linux distro is mainstream and in peoples home, preinstalled on computers / laptops, just as much as windows or Mac, it’s only really viable in my eyes for a minimalist developing environment.
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@astartes HP LaserJet Pro, had to compile the driver so CUPS would display is as an option
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makarand6017y@C0D4 well I've been using Ubuntu for over 3 months now. Primarily use it for programming. I am an Android guy so most of my time is spent on Android Studio, as compared with Windows 10, I observed no difference between the performance of it.
When you say Linux is for programming I am not sure what you are implying. All of the major tools are also available on both platforms with almost same performance.
Although Ubuntu provide greate customisation options. It lacks fluid User Interface as Windows.
I am quite sure I must be missing something that my experience about Linux is not that good as everybody else say it should be. So I am all ears if you guys have any suggestions about it. The tools or any performance tweak. I just don't want to quit Linux so soon. -
For me Linux works far better for programming. On Windows 10 it's not much of a problem but Windows 7 is really shit for that.
And for Gaming Windows is better (although 90% of the games I play work on Linux).
Personally I prefer Linux as my everyday OS because of the customizability and it's somewhat more leightweight. -
What distro and how long ago?
A majority of printers have just worked for me with the right distro, specifically HP printers.
Wine is at 3.8 and has gotten phenomenal with getting games to work with it, especially with the DXVK additional library.
Witcher 2 works under WINE, but I also hear the people behind the port have fixed the errors after the backlash (I still have yet to test this for myself, however).
Sometimes you do have conflicts, but now Snaps and Flatpacks lead to less package conflicts. Maybe try them out.
Honestly, it sounds like you haven't used Linux in 6 years and just recently got pissed off enough to make a devRant dant about it without trying it again. -
Also, according to the WINE AppDB, StarCraft: Brood War works flawlessly.
https://appdb.winehq.org/objectMana... -
@RiderExMachina Ubuntu 18.04, chcek my rants to see where it fucked up my Windows EFI partition even though I told the installer to install grub to the same drive where Ubuntu is...
The libcurl3:i386 is for the Witcher 2 because it is listed as a req. on the GOG page, why would I use Wine to play a game that has a Linux binary? But of course I did not install libcurl3:i386 because that would remove libcurl4 and a handful of programs.
Almost nothing is available in the software center... So yea, can't use Snap for Witcher2 or osu!
Honestly it sounds like I haven't used Linux for anything else than servers for a long time but now it fucked up my EFI partition so I am forced to use it bacause I did not want to reinstall Windows...
And I will say it once again, WINE WILL SHIT ITSELF WHEN BATTLE.NET CLIENT TRIES TO RUN, SC:BW might run but only if you are using the CD version, I already transferred my key to battle.net and I need the client to run the game. -
Funny how noone here actually knows how to use Linux... I've been using Linux for 13 years now (I am 27 now) and yes, I had my problems with it. A couple years ago, I switched from Ubuntu to Arch and it was the best decision I ever made.
Currently, I'm running Arch Linux with GNOME 3 on my PC. All devices are supported.
Steam works like a charm. Of course, not all games are ported to Linux just yet, but most of my beloved indie games and even some AAA titles work flawlessly or even better.
But even if Steam wouldn't work... Wouldn't be a deal breaker for me, because Linux is not a substitute for Windows. If you want your fancy buttons, etc., just use Windows.
Yes, WINE is a thing, but it would be retarded to switch to Linux just to use Windows applications...
Even my wife, my mother and my sister use Arch Linux. Yes, I'm managing their computers, but they never had any issues... -
@NettoHikari ok, first of all, I am not using Ubuntu because I want to but because it fucked up my EFI pertition so Windows won't boot. Only one signle fucking game that I play also runs on Linux... Minecraft... For work Ubuntu is great but some things like the compose key and the fact that I can't set the dock in a way that when I click on running and focused program it minimizes it are driving me crazy...
Also, welcome to devRant -
@D3add3d Thanks for welcoming me.
Ubuntu is a tested Linux distribution. Sorry to tell you, but the error always sits in front of the computer. I really don't think that Ubuntu will f**k up your EFI partition up just like that.
In fact I'm dual booting Arch and Windows right now, as Windows is needed for Visual Studio and the other Steam games I can't run on Linux... And once again: Everything works fine.
Just give Arch a shot. It surely has a higher learning curve than Ubuntu, as it doesn't come with a graphical environment by default, but the Wiki is very extensive and the users on the forums are very nice and helpful. -
@NettoHikari It surely installed grub where it shouldn't, isn't the first time it happened when I was installing Ubuntu... But you might be right that I fucked it up... by running bootsect /nt60 /mbr
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@NettoHikari and no thanks, I really don't want to DIY the OS, I want something that works... And to be fair Windows 10 worked just fine before I tried to install Ubuntu on a secondary HDD
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Rudi7167yI may not have as much Linux/Windows experience as other people in this thread, but I've been using Linux for about 7 years now; since my freshman year of highschool. Over the years more and more of my family has been crossing the line from Windows to Linux because they see how fast my computer runs, and how customizable it is. Not to mention; when it breaks- it's usually easier to fix and debug (almost always a DNS issue..). With that background, I can still play my games like WoW and Overwatch in WinE. When using Ubuntu I noticed that things sometimes did weird things, but since then I've moved to just using raw Debian, or Linux Mint (which is derived from Ubuntu). Mint flat out asks if you want to install Wine straight from the Welcome Screen; and the process to get it going was straightforward. As for Linux games, I haven't had any issues with Steam. Installing a 32bit library is an interesting requirement; but trying to do so without reading what others say about it is a bad idea. Especially if just installing the library removes packages you need. When it comes to Linux, you can do almost anything you want, just remember forums are your friend.
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bahua129057yI work and play on my Linux desktop, and it works brilliantly for everything I throw at it, including AAA games.
But I'm a Linux professional, so it's much easier for me. -
teilo4087yLinux for server. Mac for everything else, including programming. But then, I don’t game.
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bahua129057y@D3add3d
The inflexibility of the positioning of UI elements is not an Ubuntu issue. It's just the desktop environment that it uses by default. Just use a different desktop environment. -
bahua129057y@D3add3d
Your perceived graphical inflexibility with Ubuntu, that you mentioned in a comment in this exact thread. -
@bahua you must have misunderstood something I wrote because I have nothing against how Ubuntu looks, in fact I like it
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@Pogromist
Why is that?
My wife is not technically inclined, but she used Ubuntu Mate 18.04 just fine. Before that she used Pop!_OS, also with no issues.
@D3add3d
It sounds like you do have some legitimate issues then.
For Battle.Net, I would check out https://lutris.net so you can get that working.
For Witcher 2 (and also your question), some games that are "ported" to Linux aren't ported very well. In that case, I would just use WINE with the Windows version if that's an option (via Steam or whatever).
Also, would there be any way to fix your EFI partition? Maybe try grub custimizer and see if it finds the Windows boot file (add ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer). -
@RiderExMachina I have the game on GOG... all Witcher games I have are either on a DVD or on GOG, other AAA titles I have use their own platforms, I rarely buy games on Steam because I can get the retail keys cheaper than on Steam... like for example GTA V is on SocialClub, The Division is on Uplay and so on...
I love open source and all that fun stuff but I am very unimpressed by having to use GNU/Linux based OS after the last fuck up... the lack of games, stuff that actually works, the almost constant need to compile something and the need to have DDG open at all times because something broke. I mean why the fuck do I need to install libcurl3:i386(for 32 bit programs and games) if there is already libcurl4 and why the actual fuck does it conflict?!... Why the fuck do I need to glue together and compile drivers for my printer?! And they only have "beta support" so like half of the functions that the printer would normally have... Why the fuck don't any games work? Witcher 2? Nope, you click launch and the launcher just closes itself. osu!lazor? Nope, the game will run but only as a process in the background, no window will open no matter what I do. StarCraft: Brood War? Nope, Wine hates the battle.net client and running it in a VM is a really bad idea, the game flickers like crazy... Any other games? Pretty much out of luck... I would really like to play KCD but I doubt it would be playable...
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compile all the things
glue together your own printer driver
open source
stuff breaks
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duckduckgo
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