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@Condor there's still media data still being sent. You can find out alot from media data. With the app being closed source you have the problem of knowing what data is being sent
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@Condor because that's what it says on the tin?
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@Condor Yeah metadata phone was autocorrecting me. there's also message size, time sent, time recieved, etc. That even though it doesn't tell the exact message combined with facebooks other tracking services gives them alot of incite to a person. But like you said the messages are secure just that if you recived a message then go somewhere and facebooks gps finds both of yall going to one place chances are you know that encrypted message was a message to meet up.
tl;dr; my objection to whatsapp is that one company already has enough information about you and using apps from different companies mitigate that type of tracking -
@Condor Yeah, I get it, but I don't trust facebook. At all.
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@Condor I'm not referring to that and since the app is closed source I'm going to assume something is built in personally.
It's funny to see how a coworker of mine and me are very similar minded on some privacy stuff. He's a very cool/open guy and just a regular consumer (used the default services etc) but he shares quite some of my views. This is a convo we had today:
*got to the WhatsApp subject somehow*
Him: oh right, you didn't use that haha
Me: yeah 😅
Him: why was that again, privacy reasons or something, right? xD
Me: uhm yes *help*
Him: Well fair enough.
Me: so you'd think I'm right? I mean it uses end to end crypto... (I'm entirely with him in the next few lines but I always approach it carefully)
Him: they veeeery probably have some kinda fucking masterkey.
Me: why'd you think that?
Him: it has over a billion users, the owner is facebook, fb is directly integrated with several mass surveillance programs, they are known to work closely with one particular one, the intelligence interests are way too high for letting such an opportunity pass and after all, THE FUCKER IS CLOSED SOURCE AKA NO ONE CAN FUCKING VERIFY THE CRYPTO NOR THE APP ITSELF.
Me: I agree haha 😅
Him: it's not rocket science, it's modern day mass tracking/surveillance logic :)
I like that guy.
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