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Oof, I think I figured out why I'm frustrated with work stuff (not the actual work, just processes that surround it).

Project manager is an ESTJ and I'm INTJ. Our communication styles clash. Too much asinine processes to "make things efficient."

They need too much detail and don't understand what I am saying, I get annoyed with being bossed to the point of providing what I consider irrelevant, excessive details in a technical manner that they don't understand, because they're not a programmer, but insist on being provided these details. I know I just confuse people when I am forced to be as detailed as humanly possible. I don my best to summarise an issue in enough detail to help someone understand.

I've done some googling and saw some posts on Quora and reddit about people having similar issues, so it must be a thing?

It's so tiring. I don't know what to do. We've done MBTI workshops at work, because the company I work for sells MBTI assessments, but we've never gone in depth, and I've asked my manager if we can.

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    I'm EN/SFP. Who does like being bossed around and having to provide excessive technical details to people who won't get it? Explain it in such a way that they can have their own (somewhat simplified) mental model with only the core concepts (and eventually a metaphor).

    Could you give 1 or 2 concrete cases? At where I work most folks are Java-oriented and they thoroughly struggle with the implications of a "static build" powered by Node.js (eg supposing changing an env variable on-the-fly on the server will impact the pregenerated HTML). Even with tech people from another context communication can be hard
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    BTW is it common usage in the US to say INTJ and ESTJ or is it just me getting too old? Never heard about those acronyms before, but the situation still sounds familiar except for the fact that any manager or team lead would ever ask for any technical detail.
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    @usr--2ndry it's MBTI personality types.
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    I see. Quoting Wikipedia: The Myers–Briggs Type Indicator is a pseudoscientific self-report questionnaire that claims to indicate differing "psychological types".
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